The Science and Art of Podcast Audience Reach

Size, quality, and relevance of a podcast audience.

The Science of Podcast Audience Reach

HOW DO I KNOW HOW BIG A PODCAST AUDIENCE IS? 

It can be incredibly challenging to pin down the exact size of a podcast’s audience. This challenge is even true for podcast hosts and creators. If podcasts were only published on YouTube, it would be easy. We would be able to see all the subscribers and views each video gets. But podcasts are published and distributed differently.

Here is how the world of podcasting works. Podcasts are distributed through RSS feeds, an open-sourced syndication platform that anyone can access and redistribute. This is why you see so many different podcast players. e.g., Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Overcast, and more. There are 20+ iOS and Android podcast players. Figuring out how many subscribers and plays each podcast player generates is near impossible. 

 

PODCAST AUDIENCE DATA FOR PODCAST CREATORS

Podcasts hosting platforms give podcast producers a pretty good idea of audience engagement. Most hosting platforms will give a breakdown of audience KPIs, including:

  1. Episode downloads
  2. Episode streams and sources
  3. Audience geolocation
 

And depending on the podcast hosting platform’s features and upgrades, you might also see

  1. Followers
  2. Likes
  3. Audience demographics
 

These numbers, however, even for podcast producers, are highly variable and frustratingly hard to verify. These numbers are also unpublished to the general public. So, if it’s hard for the podcast creators to measure their listener count, how can we gauge a podcast’s listenership – from the outside looking in? 

 

PODCAST DATA FOR PODCAST LISTENERS

Podcast listeners have no way to see the size of any podcast’s audience. We have a couple of KPIs that will give us a ballpark on the audience size, quality, and relevance.

A common way for podcast apps to demonstrate podcast audience engagement is by offering a place for people to rate and review the podcasts published on each platform. The amount and velocity of podcast ratings and reviews play into the platform’s recommendation algorithm.

Podcast platforms promote shows that get a lot of ratings/reviews quickly and consistently. Podcast hosts know this and sometimes incentivize their audiences to review their show. Therefore we assume that higher numbers of reviews = higher audience count.

Just how high? We will explore that a little later.

Because podcast platform algorithms assume that an engaged podcast audience is a good indication of podcast quality, podcast chart rankings are reflective of these numbers.

Subscribers, downloads, and streams also contribute to a podcast’s chart rankings. All of these data points are ranked by the podcast category. Here are a couple of tools you can measure podcast rankings. 

  1. Apple Podcasts Top 100
  2. Podcast Chart Ranking
  3. Podcast Global Rank %
 

Each podcast publishing platform has variable novelty in their podcast keyword search capability, but they all follow Apple Podcast’s lead regarding Categories and Podcast Subcategories. Here are Apple Podcast’s Categories

SOCIAL MEDIA

The podcast’s social media following is an additional public-facing data point that indicates a podcast’s size. Most podcasts have branded social media profiles. For example, it’s common to see branded profiles on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TicToc, and Linkedin. Additionally, the podcast show host may also have personal social media profiles. 

Many larger podcasts have also done a great job building massive email lists to connect with their loyal listeners. Unfortunately, though the number of their email subscribers is typically not disclosed unless they are interested in advertising dollars. 

The Art of Podcast Audience Reach

At Kitcaster, it’s our business to understand the size, quality, and relevance of a podcast’s audience. As we have outlined above, there are literally dozens of data points to consider.

For a podcast audience to be relevant for a particular guest, the show has to be professional in quality and engaging interview and have reached.

We knew that it would be near impossible to get an exact podcast audience number, so we created a process to determine the perfect podcast interview fit for our clients.

RESULTS

After booking thousands of podcast interviews, we begin the campaign with the following podcast prospecting protocol.

1. Search for relevant podcasts in Apple Podcasts Top 100

2. Research the Global Rank % (we only schedule for the top 10% or better).

3. Listen to the prospective podcast to guarantee it is well qualified.

Only if a podcast fits these criteria will we pursue an engagement. 

When it comes to podcast data and analytics, Kitcaster is at the tip of the spear. Our simple formula has been a great tool to help our clients secure hundreds of worthy podcast placements. As the fidelity of podcast relevance comes into better focus, we will update our protocol accordingly. 

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